Sep 09 2008

The Scam: “Unhorsing”

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You are offered the opportunity to take the car you are thinking about buying home for a night or the weekend. All you have to do is leave your current car with the dealer as “security” or so it can be “evaluated” for its trade-in worth. When you return to the dealership you discover that “whoops“, your old car has already be taken in as a trade-in and sold. Now you have no choice but to buy that new car because you have nothing else to drive.

Avoiding the Scam

The easiest way is to avoid leaving your car. If they insist that you leave you car then pass on the opportunity to keep the car for a trial and walk out the door. A legitimate dealership doesn’t need your old car as security, and you don’t need to work with an illegitimate one.

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Aug 28 2008

Anatomy of a Car Deal: Work the Deal and the Customer (puts the customer in ether)

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The sales person emphasizes all the attributes of the new(er) car and all the negative aspects of the old(er) car while working the deal. All the usual factors are in play: mileage, age, options, equipment, plus the usual personal factors that are customer-specific. The idea is to get the customer so wrapped up in the idea of getting the new car, and how much it will improve their life, the envy of others, family harmony, their peer reputation, etc., that they lose track of the numbers in the deal. This is called putting the customer in the ether. The deeper the ether, the higher the gross profit on the deal. The objective at this stage is to get the customer firmly committed to the deal. That is why getting the customer to say “yes” is so important at this stage of the sales process. Part of that “yes” psychology is getting the customer to sign their name to a worksheet or other form of early commitment. Something, almost anything, has to be signed by the customer before the Turnover takes place. Committed to the deal, the customer will be less suspicious, more trusting, and easier to deceive when he/she is “t.o.’ed” to “F & I”.

This also means that some sort of payment amount must be agreed to before the Turnover. It often starts with the sales person presenting three numbers written on the worksheet. It often looks something like this:

700/-0- down 600/1k down 500/5k down

The numbers don’t necessarily have anything to do with reality. What the sales person often says when presenting the numbers is something like “with no down payment, your monthly payment is going to be about $700. If you put $1,000 down, I can get your payment down to $600. But if you really want to pay less each month, then I have to have $5,000 down on the financing.” The psychological motive is, obviously, to “scare up” as much down payment money as possible by putting a huge monthly payment right in the customer’s face.

Notice that the sales person may have said nothing at all about how long the loan will be for. The customer doesn’t know if they are talking about a 3 year loan, a 4 year loan, or a 5 year loan. The absence of that information gives the F & I department more flexibility to determine what they interest rate and price will end up being, and just how much of the “soft add-on’s” they can pack into the deal’s numbers. Of course, this high monthly payment shock is where the customer often has their first stroke. Soft add-on’s are things like credit life insurance, disability insurance, Gap insurance, rust-proofing, fabric protection, paint protection, etc. The idea is that the sales person creates the room in the monthly payment for these things to be packed into the deal by the F & I department after the Turnover.

Of course, the sales person often has no real intention of ending up with a $700 monthly payment, but they know that if they start out with a “500 - 400 - 300″ set of numbers, there will be less chance of landing the customer on a higher number in the first place. By presenting the “700 - 600 - 500″ numbers, the sales person has already conditioned the customer to expect that the monthly payment is going to be much higher than they thought. Having accepted that as the reality of the situation (after all, the sales person deals with these numbers every day so they must be right), the Dealer now has more room (and leverage) to actually end up with a higher number.

Once a payment number has been agreed to (usually with the customer initialing or signing the worksheet number that they go along with), the customer is ready for the Turnover.

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Aug 21 2008

“Forget To Pay Off Your Trade In” Scam

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You trade in your old car which you still owe money on, and the dealer is supposed to obtain a payoff figure and payoff the loan for you and add that payoff amount to your new car purchase. But something horrible happens. Two months later your are shocked to hear the new car dealer did not pay off your old car loan as promised. With this scam dealers effectively pay you less for your trade than they promised or steal it altogether. When the bank calls, YOU are responsible for the loan, not the dealer. The car loan is still in your name, until the dealer pays it off. As far as the bank is concerned, they have a loan with YOU, not a dealer and it’s in your name until paid off. Now your credit gets dinged with late payment alerts from your bank. Sue the dealer, the judge will ask to see your contract with the dealer obligating them to pay off your old car loan. Of course there is none.

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